Sam Brownback is a lawyer in Kansas, a former U.S. senator and former government official, and in February 2018, he actually served as the United States’ Grand Representative for International Religious Freedom.
He talked with RFA Uyghur service director Alim Seytoff in June. Regarding Article 24 of the Uighur Personal Rights Policy Act (UHRPA) 2020 recently promulgated by US President Donald Trump, the bill is likely to pass both houses of Congress by the end of Might. The legislation highlights approximately imprisonment, labor and other ill-treatment required in the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region. This is the location of a three-year detention facility plan that houses as many as 1.8 million Uighurs and other Muslims.
In a growing environment, Trump was required to sanction Brown Baker, a Chinese authority, saying that under the new law, the region is considered responsible for the region’s persecution policy. The Bush administration will continue to review other possible actions to hold Beijing accountable for the situation in the region. He also emphasized the need for other federal governments, especially Muslim powers, to follow Washington’s leadership and pressure Beijing in camps, but keep in mind that closing these centers alone is not enough, because the authorities have actually established an authority state in Washington. XUAR will prevent faith-based communities from participating in the economy and society.
RFA: The Uighur people questioned this, because the bill has finally become legislation, what is the next step?
Brownback: I believe the next thing is indeed that we and the rest of the world continue to have an increasing number of people who focus their attention on Xinjiang and point it to China. Many more countries, along with the United States, took direct action against China until they exacerbated the human rights dilemma they actually caused to the Uighur people. This is one of the most amazing things we have experienced today: One million Muslims are being held in detention camps in an important country just to become Muslims today. No matter in any era, especially in 2020, and a world-famous country like China, this is an unthinkable thing.
China has actually been bullied by various countries to force them not to do so. Solve the problem, but in fact more and more countries actually want to take action and discuss, I believe they will start to take more and more action-because the US will evaluate what else we can do in the portfolio continue doing. This is what the bill needs-the US federal government can really see and see what other things we can do to resolve this terrible human rights situation.
Admittedly, one of the most important things we have to do is to spread these details worldwide, especially in countries where Islam… has a large population. We need those countries to take action and condemn the abuse of the population. The CCP’s recognition of the Muslim faith is unimaginable. I believe that it is equally frustrating that the beginning of this persecution is about to happen, and that the persecution may still be the type of high-tech monitoring and the restrictions people have on economic and social participation.
RFA: Do you see that any major Muslim country is also prepared to worry about China?
Browback: Turkey is actually already discussing this issue. In fact, there are many other countries. In fact, China has been carrying out a really aggressive public relations campaign in Islamic countries, trying to put various faces in these detention camps, calling it trade training, but in fact, the people we stay in these places have Witnesses stated their requirements. Kidnapping, the retention they need, they have not practiced their beliefs, and their request not to use typical Muslim names like Muhammad, the destruction of the tomb and the place of praise on the children. You cannot show up in this regard. This is a purposeful religious persecution by the Chinese Federal Government, which attempts to truly avoid the belief of all people.
RFA: Do you believe that sanctions will be implemented soon [under the new law]?
Brownback: Most importantly, I hope China will stop persecution. Like a global power, it will take human rights and religious freedom as its core concepts. they do not. On our "Religious Freedom Watch List", China is still a "state of special concern", which is the most serious classification of countries where religious freedom violates the law. Since then, they have also continued to be boosters of abuse of human rights in other countries-not defending human rights, and absolutely not defending religious freedom. They unfortunately abused Muslims, but the same is true of Tibetan Buddhists, Christians, and Falun Gong, and almost everyone who believes in China has been abused.
We will not preview the sanctions. After taking these measures, these measures will be displayed, but we will not predict or preview when similar things will happen.
RFA: Does the "Policy Law" provide you with tools to serve as an ambassador for international religious freedom and to support the religious freedom of the Uyghur people more?
Browback: I mainly said that the focus of the bill is to focus the administration on these terrible abuses that are happening. What is this doing. Basically, these tools are available to competent authorities. There are specific reporting requirements that are completely new and require intelligence and administration to provide to Congress, and these costs will be completed.
However, I believe that the real value here is also to reveal the clear and strong views of Congress on this. There is a negative vote in your family. It obtained consent in the Senate. Congress clearly stated that this is a bipartisan issue and there is a deep controversy.
RFA: With the signing of UHRPA into law, do you believe this will help China pressure to close the camp and release Uighur detainees?
Blankback: Well, I hope this will force the Chinese federal government to take favorable action and close the camp. I have to remember that just closing the camp is not enough. In fact, they have now developed this state-big brother city in the population center of Xinjiang using electronic cameras, expert systems and facial recognition systems. In order for the authorities to declare that they are no longer imprisoned, they are effectively restricted in their lives.
Actually, I have played a role in front of many people. I think this is indeed an unjust future. In such a big brother system, if people wish to participate in their beliefs, they will not be able to participate in the economic or social aspects of their land. This is what the Chinese actually developed in Xinjiang, and the Communists actually contributed to the Uighurs and [wider] Muslim population in Xinjiang. Even if the refugee camps are closed, the authorities remain, and people’s lack of ability to practice their beliefs is obvious. This is the most advanced technology. In the future, China and other dictatorships are most likely to do so unless the world is pressing and preventing this from happening.
Alim Seytoff reports for the Uyghur Service Department of RFA.